The Choice of Gay: Have Faith

Last night he said something that a lot of other people have said and it really aggravated me. I lost sleep about it because I felt an extreme need to explain why he and everyone else who say this bullshit are completely wrong.
He was reading a Science article out of the St. Pete Times that described the developments in the study discovering gay genes, gay child determination before birth, and how it could possibly be fixed or altered. He bitched about it for 10 minutes and his hateful tirade ended with the ripping in half of the article.
He spent 10 minutes saying one highly offensive thing. "You are not born gay. It's a choice. There is no proof that people are born gay. It's an excuse for a sinful life being lead by Satan."
Now this guy isn't your standard insane screaming religious nut. He's somewhat intelligent, hence his prior fraud convictions. He's articulate and knows how to communicate a point well. This is why I get so pissed. A smart man who claims to be a Christian makes a lot of people suffer when he goes on these tirades.
Listen closely now, because I have his fucking proof. All you need is a clear mind and half a brain to understand. I once counseled a gay female friend who sat there crying uncontrollably after a bad day. She wished nothing more than to just be normal. She had boyfriends, and it just didn't work. If you're a guy, think about sucking a cock. Literally think about an erect penis down your throat. The way you feel when you think about that is the same way she felt. A pure and simple romantic disgust for men. Bottom fucking line.
Why would she fake? Why would she hate herself for being the way she is if she could simply turn off a fucking switch? Why would she willingly get made fun of her entire scholastic career if she could simply shut off the switch? Why would she willingly subject herself to the fucking lifetime of abuse that comes from cocksuckers like Bill Keller if she could just turn it off.
Can you turn your cocksucker switch on? If they can turn it on, surely we have the same ability. Let me try for a second here...
...No... No matter how hard I try. The romantic notion of a dude repulses me. I feel ill. Bad idea, Matt. I feel ill because I have no fucking sexual preference switch. I love women and their boobies and I can't control it. What makes anyone think that a gay man or woman can make a choice? Why would they ever subject themselves to the lifetime of fucking utter abuse from scumbags like Bill Keller if they could help it?
There's your proof, Bill Keller. You fucking hateful cunt. When people like you, especially ones with a fucking TV show go on these 10 minute hateful tirades, you bring a lot of pain to a lot of people. It's offensive and wrong. I am not a Christian, but I understand and respect Christian principles. Be the best person you can for God, and let him do the judging. Do not intentionally cause people pain. It's malicious and sadistic, especially coming from a fake preacher like Bill Keller.
So there is your scientific proof. It's human behavior, fucko. No human being would make a choice that doesn't involve a chemical of some kind, that would intentionally and deliberately create a lifetime of feelings that my friend had. Sure, there are many people who experiment or who are bi. That's different. We're talking about straight up 100% gays. They would not willingly torture themselves for life. They would not needlessly put themselves through this terribly difficult life that gays live if they had a choice. I've seen it. This is the proof of a gay gene.
We're animals. We're survivors. We are not going to intentionally create a life of pure hell. It would go against our survival instincts. We're going to do whatever we feel is right and normal for us. These are survival instincts. There doesn't need to be scientific proof to believe. You just need to believe in logic and reasoning. There is no scientific proof of a God, Satan, Jesus, or Heaven. But the majority of Americans still believe. You don't need proof.
You cannot say on one hand that you should have faith in a man in the sky, a little red evil thing with horns and a pitch fork, a man who is the son of the man in the sky and a place where everyone who has ever lived lives, and where unhappiness is an impossibility. And on the other say "Give me scientific proof that being attracted to the same sex, causing you to live an extremely difficult and miserable life, is a choice." This is irrational thinking. This is insane thinking.
If you can have faith in the existence of Jesus, a Holy Ghost, Heaven and Hell, and a being that controls everything, then I don't think it's a fucking stretch to believe that gay men and women do not choose to be gay. Choose to have faith in these people. They are born gay.
4 Comments:
Matt,
I agree 100% on this one. What exactly would Mr. Keller consider to be proof that someone was born gay? Does Mr. Keller offer any suggestions as to why people choose to be gay? Where is the pay-off in that choice?
Suppose, for a minute, that it were a choice. That would mean that everyone who has made that "choice" is faking their attraction to the same sex and suppressing their true attraction to the opposite sex.... for a lifetime. That's a long time to pretend to like sucking dick. I don't see how that is possible or why anyone would choose that lifestyle unless they truly were "wired" that way from birth.
I don't believe that being gay a learned behavior. I believe you are born with it just the same as heterosexuality. The only "choice" is if you choose to act on those urges just the same as heterosexuals act on their urges. Even if you had homosexual urges but didn't act on them, you would still be gay.
I think Bill Keller is trying to supress his own homosexual tendancies. He looks gay to me.
Why'd you delete Dalyce's comment?
PJ... I will respond to you with the most respect I can give to a person with such a hateful and ignorant point of view.
Obese people are ABSOLUTELY born with a predisposition to obesity. It's simple genetics. I weigh 160 pounds. It is absolutely impossible for me to ever be obese due to my genes. On the flip side, obese, and I mean truly obese people, choose to shove their fat fucking faces with food. They do not control what causes them to eat themselves to death. It's a disorder they are born with.
Unlike obesity, gay sex is not detrimental to your health if engaged by two mature adults. Like I said, I do not mean fat ass people who are overweight. I'm talking about the 500 hundred ponders. It's genetic, and any nutritional specialist will tell you that.
Your reason for supporting the idea that gays choose their preference is fucking dumb, man. You're really reaching with your idea that they're gay because they don't know how to cope. I hate my life so I'm going to suck a cock. Listen, it's not that simple. No matter how bad anything is, NOTHING will make you do something that goes against your primal wiring.
And to counter any possible arguments, we're not talking about anorexics here. We're talking about the millions upon millions of gays. Let's not confuse our fruits. BAHAHAHA.
Seriously. Gay people CANNOT just stop being gay. They can stop acting on their sexual feelings, but they cannot change who and what they're attracted to. Can you rehab a pedophile? Of course not. You can't rehab it because it's some fucked up built in sexual preference. The same is true with gayness, except it's not fucked up and it hurts NO ONE.
As for your question: Why has every gay I've met had sex with the opposite sex? I will explain since you can't have faith. Every person wants to be normal. Every person wants to be normal. We're not talking about the freak with 50 piercings. He has other issues. We're talking about gays.
Gays want to be normal. They don't want to be gay. They just are. Of course they try to be normal. The problem is the opposite sex feels wrong and awkward. They have a simple and uncontrollable sexual attraction to the same sex. It's that simple.
You are so lost in this topic, PJ. You're reaching so bad. I have a feeling this will be an issue you change your mind on later in life. You're just too off on this. You don't even make a good point. You're just blindly believing the horseshit you were raised hearing.
You're insane to believe that gay people are just these simple little animals who feel nothing. Who just wanna do gay things. That's fucking nuts, man. You're fucking ignorant and hateful to believe that gays would fuck dogs if they could. I just don't understand how anyone can think like you. How do you come to that fucking conclusion, PJ? It's hateful. Fucking period.
It makes no sense whatsoever. Gay people are not these sexual deviants you perceive them to be. Only the bravest gays are out of the closet. Do you have any idea how many NORMAL people are secretly gay? Suffering in the closet because fuckers like you make the world hell for them. It's sick and fucking wrong.
And you've really gotta stop with these dumb fucking arguments. It's embarrassing, PJ. If you're going to disagree, you need to come up with something other than WHY DON'T THEY JUST FUCK DOGS WHILE THEY'RE AT IT.
It shows you're not reasonable or rational. You're just plain fucking nuts. Oh... and as if I needed to explain. Gay sex is not torturing the partner, unlike dog sex.
You've lost your grasp on reality. Gays are gay because they are programmed that way. You're programmed for pussy. They're programmed for cock. Have faith, PJ. Millions upon millions of people wouldn't willingly subject themselves to a lifetime of torture from society, torture from people like you, the lack of children, and the lack of acceptance forever, if they just wanted attention.
You're ignorant. You're supposed to know something about psychology, but I know that you're full of a shit due to your massive amount of ignorance. People do everything for different reasons. A girl will cut not for attention, but to visualize their internal pain and to act on subconscious self loathing. I have a facial piercing because I want to be different, because I am different. I have a tattoo to express myself.
Gays are gay because they're gay. What gives me comfort is knowing that religious nuts like yourself are going out. I love moderate Christians, and they will be the ones who ultimately turn more people to your religion that you people have in the last 50 years. The hate doesn't work. Think like Christ, you dumb motherfucker. Two lines in the bible shouldn't dictate the way you view millions and millions of people.
Stop hating. Love, like a Christian should. Tolerate, like a Christian should. And come to the realization that an Atheist is calling you a bad Christian, and he's right. It doesn't matter if gays choose it or are born that way, you're hateful over an entire group of people based upon one single characteristic that harms no one else. Loving people who engage in loving acts. And you truly hate them, judge them, and denounce them in public.
You are hateful and morally wrong. It hurts no one but your beliefs. A few lines in the bible. Set them aside and love, PJ. Tolerate and accept. I hope you get raped in the ass by a black dude. Then you'll believe that NO ONE would choose that.
Matt, you reacted the exact way that I expected you to. The exact way you always do...with ABSOLUTELY NO FACTS!!! You have one way of believing, I have another. Yet, because of your immaturity you will not listen to reason. Again, you do not refute anything I say, you just call names and say, "because I say so."
Explain to me why "gay" people have sex with people of the opposite sex! You say you wouldn't, but yet you think you are stronger than these people. These "open", courageous people. If it were "normal" to be gay, then would you try to have sex with a man? Wouldn't you try anything to be normal?
You tell me to, "tolerate and accept." Do you know me? Did I not say I have known many gay people? I don't hate gay people. Gay people are no different than I am. They sin, and I sin. To me, gay people are a lot like alcoholics (which I am, although I haven't had a drink in many years). Its not the fact that they are "bad" people, its just that they are getting caught up in bad things. This is something you won't understand, seeing as how you are an atheist. I don't dislike a person because of their actions. I try to help them see the error in their ways, and if they refuse to listen (LISTEN not change) then I will not associate with them, but I will never refuse to listen to them if they ask for help. You say, "think like Christ..." That is the way Christ says to think. Study the Bible before you spout ignorance. You are starting to sound more and more like Rosie!
Pastor Jim, Your view point is thazt of your average stuck up, 'never been on the other side of the fence' religious dink. "I don't dislike a person because of their actions. I try to help them see the error in their ways," That is so far gone arrogant I am not going to touch that. How is it considered an error? Love is acceptable when dealing with God, but with all else, Why is it so illegal? Who gets to decided which form of love is acceptable, you, or the being who created it? Could being gay be caused by the oppressive and sterile enviroment, so harsh on sex that it has increased tensions between the sex's, causing men and women to turn to themselves for solace and comfurt?
-- Hazard
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