Shitting On The 1st Amendment
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
I love it when I wake up and see a news story that tells me all about how today's judges are pissing and shitting all over the Constitution. It makes me absolutely fucking sick. This isn't finding loopholes, or mild skirting of our historical constitutional protections. This is full out pissing and shitting. For those who can't sink down to my level of colorful vocabulary, I will rephrase. They are fully and blatantly doing things that the constitution says shall never happen. I hope that was simple enough.
From Richmond, Virginia... Heh, Virginia, our first colony. It makes me fucking sick that of all places for this to be happening, it's here.
"An appeals court on Wednesday upheld a Virginia law that requires public schools to lead a daily recitation of the Pledge of Allegiance, rejecting a claim that its reference to God was an unconstitutional promotion of religion." Ok, so let's lay this out before I get into the details of the story. The 3 judge panel on this appeal's court upheld a law that was challenged. That law being a mandatory recitation of the Pledge of Allegiance. It's a good law, but the problem isn't with the law. The problem is with the Pledge, and that problem makes the law unconstitutional. This isn't even debatable. It's a fact. The law is unconstitutional. And why is that? Let's look at the pledge.
"I Pledge Allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."
That's all great for kids to be reciting every morning. Except for that whole "one nation under God" part. Look up at the first paragraph. See that bold text? That's our very first amendment. The first, and the grand daddy of them all. Those first words of this first amendment say "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion."
Well, the whole problem is that Congress did make a law respecting an establishment of religion. They did it with this law that requires children to recite the pledge and they did it in 1955. What happened in 1955? Well believe it or not, that whole "one nation under God" part was never a part of the Pledge. A religious fanatic who somehow managed to become president lead the campaign in getting that part added to the pledge. In 1955, Congress added it, along with "In God We Trust" on our money.
First of all, put yourself in President Eisenhower's mindset. You become president, and you think it's actually a good idea to add your beliefs into the fucking Pledge of Allegiance and all over our money. This is the type of behavior you'd expect from tyrants and dictators. But somehow, the American people let it happen. So just know that this whole "one nation under God" thing is relatively new.
There is no disputing this. When you, by law, must refer to yourself and your nation as one nation under God, you are obeying a law that is made based on an establishment of a religion. It's not fucking allowed. It should have never happened in 1955, and this fucking 3 member panel of dead weight cocksuckers who didn't strike this law down need to be shot and killed. They're not real Americans.
When you are a fucking Judge, your only job is to interpret the law and the constitution. Because they did not strike down this law, they have clearly shown their incompetence along with their complete inability to judge.
There is no dispute. There is nothing to argue. "One nation under god" in our Pledge, in and of itself does not infringe on the constitution. However, when you are forced, by state law, to recite that Pledge in a state school, then that is in complete violation of the first amendment.
Like I said, there's no debating it. You can't get into semantics. You can't find loopholes, and you can't skirt it. It's an establishment of religion that children are forced to recite. Children are forced to acknowledge a God. And this pisses and shits on the amendment that gives me the very write to say what I'm saying.
Let's get into this article a little bit before I burst a vein in my brain due to the anger that this fucking shit is causing me. The lawyer who was going against the state on this case said, "The problem is that young school children are quite likely to view the pledge as affirming the existence of God and national subordination to God," Remes said. "The reference to God is one of the few things in the pledge that children understand."
Think back and remember if you can. I know I can, and he is exactly right. I'm upset that I didn't think of this point. When you're a young child in school, that entire pledge is complete fucking gibberish except for that God part. I remember, and he is right. Honestly, I'm not just saying this because it fits my argument. In all truthfulness, I remembering reciting the pledge like a zombie and only understanding two parts. Pledging Allegiance and God. When I was little, religion was not forced upon me. School is where I got the idea of God and where I got the idea that we were a nation under God. But that isn't true. I'm speaking honestly, and I am not just saying this because it fits my fight. This is all truth, and I don't think that 7-8 year old Matt was a whole lot different than all the other kids.
So with that being said, you have to understand how powerful the pledge becomes to a child reciting it. The lawyer made a great point, and he is exactly right because I remember. All those big words in the pledge, a child does not understand. He or she may know what the words mean, but they don't understand the statements. Republic? What does it stand for? One nation under God? Oh I know who God is, I get that. Indivisible? What's indivisible? What is with liberty? Justice for who? See what I'm saying? The pledge was written for adults, not children. A child really gets "One nation under God" compared to all of the other stuff in that short little recitation. It's brainwashing. I know this for a fact, because I remember.
Let's analyze Judge Williams' decision. "Undoubtedly, the pledge contains a religious phrase, and it is demeaning to persons of any faith to assert that the words 'under God' contain no religious significance," Judge Karen Williams wrote. "The inclusion of those two words, however, does not alter the nature of the pledge as a patriotic activity."
You insane, lying bitch. This fucking woman needs to be thrown off the bench and be forced to convert to Islam, just so she knows how it feels to have a religion forced down your fucking throat. She admits that the Pledge contains a religious phrase, and she even admits that it would be demeaning to people who believe in God to say that the words "under God" contain to religious significance. It's not just "under God." It's the whole phrase. "One nation under God." That is the problem. It is a declaration that we are one nation under God. She knows it, but Judges are elected at this level and not appointed and they have to worry about getting reelected when it comes to very important cases like this.
She goes on to say that the inclusion of those two words (actually it's the 4 fucking words that's the problem) do not alter the nature of the Pledge, which is a patriotic activity. That fact is absolutely irrelevant. The fact of the matter is, as of 1955, the Pledge contains an establishment of religion and to force children to recite this establishment of religion is to be unconstitutional. And if you're a judge, acting unconstitutionally, then you should be punished severely. There is no debate.
I only wonder how much longer I will be able to sit here and do this before a President, a Congress, or a Judge decides it'll be a good idea to stop brilliant people who are too smart for their own good from speaking their mind. It'll happen sooner or later. They're pissing and shitting on our 1st amendment, and no one seems to care except for me. Probably because I love it so much. It's ok though. They'll start screwing with your favorite amendment sooner or later. Then maybe once everyone has their favorite freedom taken away, we might do something about it. Fucking fake democracy.
8 Comments:
Matt,
I know you might find this hard to believe, but again, I agree with you. I was raised going to church three times a week, every week. When I was saying the pledge I never understood what I was saying, either. My parents took me to church to learn about God, and they took me to school to learn my readin', ritin', and rithmatic. I don't think it is wrong for kids to say the pledge, but I don't think they should be forced. I know I would be really upset if the schools forced my child to say one nation under Budha.
Good point,
PJ
You are the coolest Christian I've met Mr. Pastor Jim, also known as PJ. This is what I like to see. Christians who aren't slaves to their belief and who can step outside of their religious box to make their own opinion. It's really good to see, man. You do a great service to your religion. At least when it comes to convicing me that it's not so bad.
I think it's very good for children to say the Pledge. It's very good to instill a sense of patriotism at a young age. But it is not good to instill a sense of being controlled in one nation under God, and that's my beef. I always felt awkward saying that "under God" part. I remember though, I felt very religious and felt the same way I did when I used to goto Church when I said that part of the pledge. I say this because to me, for those 2 seconds I was saying those words, I felt "churchy". And this is a big no-no in schools. I wonder if other kids felt that way. I should talk to my 11 year old sister about this.
Anyways, I'm really glad you undestand, PJ. I think it's best to just take those two words out and let the faith be tought in Church and at home. What if you ARE a buddhist? Well buddha isn't necessarily a God. He is a deity. There are many religions that do not feature a God, and in today's world, mentioning "God", wether it be the Christian or Islamic God, can be very isolating to young children. And trust me, feeling like an outsider when you're that young sucks.
Thanks for the good comment. I really appreciate it.
Matt,
As far as being the "coolest Christian", I don't know about that. I just have enough faith in God to be able to have open discussions with people. I know my faith will not quiver. I've been through a lot in my life, and because of that I have met many different people. I know the majority of people are decent hearted people. I realize there are a few people who are just evil. I do not think I am better than any of them because I believe in God. You are right about the Bible in believing that it is just a book. Not much of the stuff in the Bible can be proved. I have come to realize in my life that I don't need written proof of God. I can look outside and see his wonders. I can see a newborn and realize the miracle. It is my *faith* that makes me believe in God. I believe the Bible because I believe God inspired it. I am a person who likes to first look at how other people might see things before I form a final opinion. Because of this, I can see how people might think I am crazy for my beliefs. I believe that a Man who walked on this Earth was God. I believe that this Man died and was ressurected to save me from my sins. I believe He left me a book to tell me how to live my life according to Him. Trust me, I understand how that sounds. But, I have *faith*. I *believe* it. If you don't, thats on you. God is always in my life, but I can seperate humor, laws, and faith. I can still enjoy an episode of David Chapelle and then read a couple verses in the Bible.
This doesn't mean I can't differenciate between reality and fantasy. I understand the laws given to us by our government. God even tells us to obey the laws of man. This country was founded on freedom. Our forefathers were trying to escape a lot of the religious pressures put on the government when they founded this country. We, here in the US have the right to believe what we want. People are dying for this right.
I appreciate your reply. As I have said before, I respect your intelligence. I enjoy your well thought out posts. You are young and have many, many years ahead of you. I do not know what you do for a living, but I hope you are putting your wit to use. Knowledge conquers a lot of things out there, but I think for the things that can't be explained....
that's God.
Later,
PJ
The desert is awesome.
I found here a computer.
I also found God. I wish Matt were here. I can help him to find this awesome God. But he's still resisting.
20 years ago, Matt did not even exist. Yet, the world existed long ago. Matt had no existence, but God brought him out of nothingness to existence.
Have you ever thought about the love God has for you?
It is unbelievable.
He did not create you a bug or a horse. He created YOU a human being, the highest among living creatures.
Search for God my beloved Matt and you will find Him.
A scientist is also a researcher.
You rationalize a lot. You read a lot. You hear a lot. That's how you build your judgment. But what is lacking is experience. What you really need is to go by yourself and search for God.
If I do not believe in God and I die and discover that there is a God, I will be a loser.
But if I believe in God and I die and discover that there is no God, I won't be a loser.
Pastor Jim, I was impressed by your comment. It seems like you converted because you said: "I am a person who likes to first look at how other people might see things before I form a final opinion."
WWoW. very good. But I still don't agree with you that the "Man
[who] died and was ressurected to save [you]from [your]sins... left [you]a book to tell [you] how to live [your]life according to Him."
Jesus did not leave us a book. Jesus left us three important things:
1- the HOLY SPIRIT
2- HIS BODY & BLOOD
3- The CATHOLIC CHURCH (the Catholic term appeared the first time in the 2nd century AD by Iraeneus who was a close friend to those were baptized by the Apostles).
Today, only the Catholic Church can be traced back to the Apostles. Other churches did cut themselves off the Church, some for political reasons, others for prideful reasons.
Now, I need to go and pray for Matt. An hour is fine. I will offer one Rosary for Matt and I will worship the BODY OF CHRIST asking Him to help Pastor Jim.
Have a peaceful night.
Angel Anthony
"The CATHOLIC CHURCH (the Catholic term appeared the first time in the 2nd century AD by Iraeneus who was a close friend to those were baptized by the Apostles)."
anthony, anthony, anthony.....Not quite the *hard* evidence I was looking for. A friend of a friend of a friend once called the rectum an "O RING." Does that mean this is now the official name? I think your voyage has possibly had bad effects on you. Are you by a powere plant, by chance?
PJ
Anonymous became Pastor Jim. Same person. Same mind. Same thoughts.
The Church became the Catholic Church. Same Church. Same Faith. Same doctrine.
Pastor Jim, you can't beat me up.
You don't have the 3 things Jesus left us. I have them all.
Hey Matt,
Give me just a minute to prove anthony wrong, again...
These are the words of the aforementioned "Iraeneus"....
"The blessed apostles, then, having founded and built up the Church, committed into the hands of Linus the office of the episcopate. Of this Linus, Paul makes mention in the Epistles to Timothy. To him succeeded Anacletus; and after him, in the third place from the apostles, Clement was allotted the bishopric. . . . . To this Clement there succeeded Evaristus. Alexander followed Evaristus; then, sixth from the apostles, Sixtus was appointed; after him, Telephorus, who was gloriously martyred; then Hyginus; after him, Pius; then after him, Anicetus. Sorer having succeeded Anicetus, Eleutherius does now, in the twelfth place from the apostles, hold the inheritance of the episcopate. In this order, and by this succession, the ecclesiastical tradition from the apostles, and the preaching of the truth, have come down to us. And this is most abundant proof that there is one and the same vivifying faith, which has been preserved in the Church from the apostles until now, and handed down in truth."
Note that Iraeneus does not identify Peter as the first Bishop of Rome. The first Bishop of Rome that he does identify is named Linus. If Peter had, in fact, been first Bishop of Rome, why did Iraeneus ignore him? Iraeneus then gives us the identity of the first twelve Bishops of Rome:
1. Linus
2. Anacletus
3. Clement
4. Evaristus
5. Alexander
6. Sixtus
7. Ignatius (Telephorus)
8. Huginus
9. Pius
10. Anicetus
11. Sorer
12. Eleutherius
anthony, you take his word that your catholic church is "the" church, do you take his word that Peter was not your original pope? Or do you believe him like you do the Bible? You just believe the parts that make you "right".
Another thing, anthony, I gave just a slight overview of why my beliefs might look ridiculous to someone who does not believe in the Bible. I am not here to preach the good word to Matt. I like to read his posts and discuss or debate his topics. I don't find it necessary to freak someone out by off the wall comments like, "I took your dog" etc, etc, and then claim to be showing them God's love. There is honestly something wrong with you. You believe in medicine. Seek a doctor's help. He might be able to give you something for your odd behavior. Don't be too proud. We all need help.
Sorry again, Matt, but when I see anthony say something insane I like to share with him knowledge. All he seems to know is what his church tells him.
Best regards,
PJ
I am unable to argue the finer details of religion and the history of religion. I must bow out of this one. I agree and disagree with both of you.
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